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darchon > GET A LIFE (2092) > 13/07/06 18:35
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http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=1337254&p=1&tmp=1#post1337254

lots of imba shizzle

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We have been continuing to work on the review since the 'First Glimpse' post, the talent calculator unveiling, and we have been building upon those initial changes. After our own discussions and testing, as well as reviewing the player feedback we have received, we are planning to make the below additional changes to the rogue talents for patch 1.12.

Please keep in mind that these changes, as well as the review as a whole, are not final, and are still subject to change. We are moving closer to the launch of the Public Test Realms for 1.12 and we will be continuing to evaluate the changes throughout the testing process.

The 'First Glimpse' post and talent calculator can be viewed from the links below.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=1271292&p=1

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html


# Murder has been changed to increase damage caused against Humanoid, Giant, Beast, and Dragonkin by 1%/2%.

# Remorseless Attacks has been reduced to 2 ranks, with the new effectiveness being 20% and 40%.

# Endurance has been changed to reduce the cooldown of your Sprint and Evasion abilities by 45 sec/1.5 min. It no longer increases the duration of Evasion.

# Weapon Expertise will now increases your skill with Fist, Dagger, and Sword weapons. It will no longer affect Maces, and this change is being followed up by

# Mace Specialization will now also add 1-5 weapon skill with Maces, in addition to the stun effect the talent already provides.

# Adrenaline Rush now has a reduced cooldown of 5 min.

# Elusiveness has been reduced to a 2 point talent and now reduces the cooldown of Vanish and Blind by 45 sec/1.5 min. It no longer reduces the cooldown for Evasion.

# Opportunity is being moved to a tier 1 talent, swapping places with Camouflage.

# Ghostly Strike has been reverted back to the previous 125% weapon damage, but retains its new Energy cost of 40.

# Setup will now also provide combo points if you fully resist an attackers spell.

# Improved Rupture, Improved Cheap Shot, and Improved Garrote have been removed.

# New talent 'Serrated Blades' is a tier 4 talent in the Subtlety tree, causes your attacks to ignore X of your targets Armor, and increases the damage dealt by your Rupture ability. The amount of Armor reduced increases with your level. At level 60, the ranks will reduce target Armor by 100/200/300 respectively.

# New talent 'Dirty Deeds' replaces the Improved Cheap Shot talent, reducing the Energy cost of both the Cheap Shot and Garrote abilities by 10/20.

# Garrote, Eviscerate, and Rupture now all scale with Attack Power. The previously announced Eviscerate book will still be made available in an undisclosed location. While we had always planned to scale these abilites at a point in the future, we felt that the rank upgrade for Eviscerate and damage increase for Garotte would provide a well needed boost in the current game and carry these abilities until the scaling mechanic was implemented. Our ultimate goal to scale the abilities in a future update was decided to be moved ahead, and the current plan is to implement scaling for these abilities in 1.12, instead of in a later update.


Again, please keep in mind that any of the above changes are subject to revision, reversal, or removal. We'll be continuing to evaluate these changes, and the review as a whole. Neither the talent calculator, nor these forum posts should be considered final word on the review.

Thanks for reading.
Sayana > LOOT FTW LIKES ME (697) > 13/07/06 19:10
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Way more imba. Loving it already.
Fifty > LESS THAN 250 TO GO! (824) > 13/07/06 21:39
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me like
Gudran > Peon (27) > 13/07/06 21:41
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Me like verry much Laughing
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?1626396
blem > WANNABE TROLL (1020) > 13/07/06 22:00
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think im going this way now http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?305020125000000320055010005015023100000000000000000
killjoy > "I TRIED MY BEST" (201) > 14/07/06 13:46
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At what point did they say they would remove ruthlessness as a pre req for relentless strikes? As that whats the talent tree shows but i cant remember reading it and it seems a little too good to be true.
blem > WANNABE TROLL (1020) > 14/07/06 13:53
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didnt say anything about BF needed for weapon exp either, but thats life, some times you win some other times you /cry
Payback > Peon (45) > 15/07/06 16:26
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http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?325300125001351320300000000000000055000002000000000
Nolth > "I TRIED MY BEST" (93) > 18/07/06 01:19
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So noone goes?
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?005023104000000320305002255010020105000000000000000

Best sustained dps specc in the whole wide world.
liaroner > "I TRIED MY BEST" (111) > 18/07/06 03:44
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looks nice Surprised
* LOOT FTW INSIDE *
Fifty > LESS THAN 250 TO GO! (824) > 18/07/06 12:58
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killjoy wrote:
At what point did they say they would remove ruthlessness as a pre req for relentless strikes? As that whats the talent tree shows but i cant remember reading it and it seems a little too good to be true.


Its a typo, on PTR u need ruthlessnes for relentless.
killjoy > "I TRIED MY BEST" (201) > 18/07/06 13:11
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Payback Cyo is going to kill you if he sees that build Razz
killjoy > "I TRIED MY BEST" (201) > 18/07/06 13:36
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If eviscerate still isnt worthwhile and ruthlessness is a pre requisite for relentless strikes then ill probably start with:-

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?005023005000000304305200055010020105000000000000000

If eviscerate turns out to be any good i may go:-

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?305020005000000304305000045010023105000000000000000

but it eviscerate would really have to be v v good and i would consider putting the points in murder elsewhere.
Fifty > LESS THAN 250 TO GO! (824) > 18/07/06 13:51
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Meh spec prolly:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?005322105000000320055010005015023100000000000000000

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