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Thror > "I TRIED MY BEST" (111) > 30/10/06 11:53
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I have been thinking of playing again and I might just start In the expansion.

I was wondering isn't it better to be dual wield fury then to be ms and use Severance?

Any Ideas of a great specc?

I was thinking something like this for dualwielding.

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/burningcrusade/warrior/talents.html?320230213020000000000000505300540501005310510000000000000000000000

& for ms

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/burningcrusade/warrior/talents.html?050230213525100200211510505000500500000000000000000000000000000000

btw Gz on your progress in naxx and I miss you guys Smile
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darchon > GET A LIFE (2092) > 17/11/06 01:23
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I like both your builds, but i think you would miss tactical mastery.
bellator > TROLL (1553) > 17/11/06 02:09
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I'm slightly confused Shael

The 2 forumulas you posted for rage gained from dealing damage pre-expansion and during expansion would indicate that for a level 60, they would generate more rage in the expansion than pre-expansion.

But i thought there was a rage nerf in expansion.

Am i missing something?
Silra > LESS THAN 250 TO GO! (852) > 17/11/06 03:29
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bellator wrote:
I'm slightly confused Shael

The 2 forumulas you posted for rage gained from dealing damage pre-expansion and during expansion would indicate that for a level 60, they would generate more rage in the expansion than pre-expansion.

But i thought there was a rage nerf in expansion.

Am i missing something?


Less.

In my gear I'll be getting about a quarter less rage per swing with a two hander for example. (i.e. with the nerf all the new shiny 41pt talent does, is give me back what I have right now, at the COST of ten talent points in fury to get it)
And that's without any buffs boosting my dps (which would drag it down even further)

And note that with the formulas, a flurry proc will actually decrease the amount of rage you get per swing.


Try the calculator based on the formula and play around with it a bit:
http://vanthia.com/ragenorm/

Try it out with a mitigation value of 20% or so, which is what a raid target with full debuffs typically ends up with.
The nerf pulls the rage generated down towards about what you would have if you had 96 listed white dps. That's about on par with a warrior in GREENS with a two hander. You don't get that much less rage, but that's the point where the nerf equals out, and anything below that is buffed. That's the problem warrios are having with this, the clear fact that it isn't a normalisation, because if it was a normalisation there would be a benefit to some lowly geared warriors.


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Kir > Frequenter (299) > 17/11/06 03:30
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Thror, severance MS ftw!
Thror > "I TRIED MY BEST" (111) > 17/11/06 08:45
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darchon wrote:
I like both your builds, but i think you would miss tactical mastery.

Thats I really good thought. But you get such a sucky tree if you put many points in there,

Kir wrote:
Thror, severance MS ftw!

Haha Im telling you Kir this axe does imbah dmg but in a month or so you will get tired of the 2,2k ms cuse thats the only thing It does, fury ftw.
bellator > TROLL (1553) > 17/11/06 11:52
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ah i see the difference. Missed a pair of bracets. Kinda changes rage generation from a linear function to a more kinda cubic function. Sure all those under geared warriors we have in guild will be happy Wink
Kir > Frequenter (299) > 17/11/06 12:49
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http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/burningcrusade/warrior/talents.html?050230213525100200212510505010500000000000000300000000000000000000

This will by my imba MS build with TM and no enrage.
Thror > "I TRIED MY BEST" (111) > 17/11/06 15:26
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Kir wrote:
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/burningcrusade/warrior/talents.html?050230213525100200212510505010500000000000000300000000000000000000

This will by my imba MS build with TM and no enrage.


this is a good build but not having a enrage could matter a lot.
Akron > TROLL (1560) > 17/11/06 15:46
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Thror wrote:
Kir wrote:
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/burningcrusade/warrior/talents.html?050230213525100200212510505010500000000000000300000000000000000000

This will by my imba MS build with TM and no enrage.


this is a good build but not having a enrage could matter a lot.


It's not really a must for PvE dps, though.
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fuckin nub! quit the job, not the guild!!!
Bionix > LESS THAN 250 TO GO! (822) > 17/11/06 15:52
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Enrage is definately worth having leveling in TBC, mobs crit more than you might think
Kir > Frequenter (299) > 17/11/06 15:55
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oh wtf, i have iron will in that build. That sucks if you have second wind.
Anyways, here is the imba MS pvebuild Razz Im the only MS out there!

Didnt know where to put the last point but it ended up in Second wind: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/burningcrusade/warrior/talents.html?350200213525100103210515500010500000000000000300000000000000000000
Kir > Frequenter (299) > 17/11/06 15:57
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Bionix wrote:
Enrage is definately worth having leveling in TBC, mobs crit more than you might think


Well ye but then you cant level with MS which i want to do.
Silra > LESS THAN 250 TO GO! (852) > 17/11/06 17:03
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Kir wrote:
Bionix wrote:
Enrage is definately worth having leveling in TBC, mobs crit more than you might think


Well ye but then you cant level with MS which i want to do.


Which shows how crappy the new TM placement is
Kir > Frequenter (299) > 26/11/06 01:02
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20min big three and 21sec shieldwall``? Offtankbuild Very Happy Can be reached at 60 too.

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/burningcrusade/warrior/talents.html?353053013020000003000000000000000000000000000355511033002101001200
Kir > Frequenter (299) > 24/01/07 17:08
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Imba build?

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/warrior/talents.html?050203213525100200212005500013000000000000002350010000000000000000
Bionix > LESS THAN 250 TO GO! (822) > 24/01/07 19:28
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http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LGMhbAbqM0diZVV0V0xo

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